AI Agents, Digital Money and Bitcoin
Michael Tanguma and Liam Nelson discuss a reported incident in which an internal OpenAI model spent testnet ETH it did not own, and Michael makes his case that AI agents will favor native internet money, with bitcoin as the asset he expects them to settle on. The hosts also cover reported talks between OpenAI and Trail of Bits, World ID's new suite for banks and AI agents, Anthropic's public benefit fund, and Meta's Muse Spark Open. On the digital asset side, they review a Chainalysis report on US bitcoin flows, Schwab's bitcoin and Ether trading, JPMorgan's JPM Coin on Ethereum, Deutsche Bank's reported custody plans, and Stifel's stake in Meow. Brian Cubellis argues that incumbent moves are defensive, and Michael sketches an idea for a bitcoin savings layer that agents could spend from. Final Settlement is a weekly show from Onramp Media and Early Riders.
Chapters
00:00 - Cold Open: The Hosts On AI Agents and Barter 01:41 - A Reported OpenAI Model Testnet Incident 03:12 - The Hosts' Case on AI Agents and Bitcoin 05:24 - The Hosts On AI Labs and Digital Assets 07:39 - Reported OpenAI and Trail of Bits Talks 10:16 - World ID for banks, deepfakes and AI agents 18:46 - Anthropic's public benefit fund and Elon's SpaceX pledge 24:52 - Meta's Muse Spark Open and AI capex concentration 28:53 - Ramp's Reported Valuation and AI Second-Order Effects 29:56 - Chainalysis Report on US Bitcoin Flows 31:55 - AI-to-AI commerce and agents with native wallets 37:41 - Schwab turns on Bitcoin, JPM Coin goes to Ethereum 43:06 - The Hosts On Deutsche Bank, Stifel and Meow 51:10 - Stripe, Privy and the Hosts' Bitcoin Savings Idea for Agents 54:36 - Ledger Update and Market Discussion
